[identity profile] donnad.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] arisia
I am sure this will offend many people, and if it does I apologize, but I feel it has to be said.

I am disgusted and appalled at the rudeness and sense of entitlement I encountered from many of this year's staff members. And I am not the only person who noticed this.


An example...
I got up early on Sunday and went down to the staff den, I was there about 15 minutes before it was supposed to open, but the lovely staff den ladies let me in anyway. I told them I needed food so I could take some meds, but I could see they weren't quite ready yet and asked what I could do to help them get stuff put out. They gave me a couple things to do (and a danish so I could take my meds) and I went off to help. At 8:02AM a person walked in, I was just plugging in the kettle to heat water, sie wanted tea so I told hir it would be a few minutes while the water heated that I had just plugged it in. Hir response was very snobbishly "What do you mean the water is not hot yet?" I looked at hir and said well, you weren't here 10 minutes ago to plug it in. You want it faster, then feel free to come in early and help. These ladies were up just as late as the rest of us, they are doing their best." and I walked away.
Sure sie hadn't had hir morning caffiene yet, but that was no excuse to jump all over me because the kettle isn't hot. Sie had a coffee maker in hir room, there was nothing preventing hir from using it. This is just one instance I personally encountered in the den, I witnessed many more acts of rudeness directed at the ladies running the den and other staff members in the den, during my visits there. (I was not den staff, I was just helping out while waiting for the food to be ready.)

In general many staff members were surly, rude, and just basically snappish, many came across with the "I'm staff, I'm better than you" or the I'm staff therefore I'm entitled to [...] ahead of you" attitude.

In my opinion, If you want to be involved in Arisia, and deal with hundreds of fans and random people all weekend and can't keep a pleasant attitude, no matter how stressed you get, or how tired or overworked you are, perhaps you shouldn't be doing that job. It's like any job that involves dealing with the customer, you have to keep it all to yourself so as to not take it out on the unsuspecting and not offend. I was personally offended by many of the attitudes I encountered during the weekend by staff members I did not know and who didn't know me. There are places to let it all out, you shouldn't be snapping and rude to the attendees or they will stop coming and we cant have an Arisia without them.

I have a whole essay/rant about Arisia and it's changing dynamic as of late, How I feel it's strayed from it's original mission to be all inclusive and such, how it's more of a fannish lifestyle and polyamory based con now instead of Science Fiction and Fantasy based as originally intended, and how it really needs to be able to encompass all things equally*, but I will likely not subject people to it.

Personally with the next Arisia being the 20th, I would love to see the theme be "Back to Basics" or "Back to our Roots." But since I am just a lowly staff member, costumer and artist (who BTW has worked at every Arisia in some capacity to the point of never having to purchase a membership to Arisia yet) and really do not want any other responsibility right now, who am I to say what should happen?


*Of the panels offered pre-con, 47 "fannish lifestyle" panels this year and only 12 art, 12 filk, and 8 costume panels is not treating all things equally.

Date: 2008-01-21 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juniperthewise.livejournal.com
It didn't seem to me that "lifestyle" panels dominated. I'm just curious as to why you see Art, Filk, and Costuming as core SF areas. Do they, to you, outweigh books, movies, TV? I think if you included all the categories that relate to SF in your comparison, you'd see that your thumb is firmly planted on the scales and that SF is well represented. Certainly Boskone covers books better, but that's because Boskone is Boskone and Arisia Arisia. We chose Arisia over Boskone this year in order to get the full panoply of fandom. Next year we may do Boskone instead because our focus may be more on books then. To me, that's the core category as far as SF is concerned, so when I want that I go somewhere other than Arisia. I think it would be pointless to have Arisia and Boskone one month apart if they were identical. They meet different needs.

Date: 2008-01-21 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liamstliam.livejournal.com
Hehehe.

You said "dominated."

Hehehe.

Date: 2008-01-21 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadesong.livejournal.com
It didn't seem to me that "lifestyle" panels dominated.

Exactly. "Fannish Lifestyle" is a catchall phrase. That was the category for everything from blogging to raising your family in fandom to, yes, alternative lifetyles.

Personally? I feel that the entire con is Fannish Lifestyle.

And that, if you have to categorize, stuff like filk and costuming would go just as well in a general "fannish lifestyle" track. Ballgowns are pretty, yes. What do they have to do with sf/f? Hell if I know.

I'm just curious as to why you see Art, Filk, and Costuming as core SF areas. Do they, to you, outweigh books, movies, TV?

*nods* I'd argue that books are the most core of the core SF areas. Followed by TV and movies. I'm trying to figure out why they seem so irrelevant to the original poster, and why she thinks filk and costuming outweigh them. If you count actual SF categories like books and other media, the schedule doesn't look so out of balance.


Date: 2008-01-21 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liamstliam.livejournal.com
See, I think for that some people it *is* a polycon within a science fictiopn convention.

Not a judgment, an observation.

PS: Anyone reading my comments on anything. I was not there this year. I have been for several years before.

We just had too many events SCA and sci-fi cons and had to cut something. I will say that the setup of the Arisia hotel -- including the elevators -- and the fact that a friend will be the filk guest at Boskone had something to do with which one we chose.

I will also say that within minutes of saying we couldn't come, someone pointed out we could have our volunteer comps from last year moved to next year. (Similar thing happened with Intercon).

Date: 2008-01-22 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tehuti.livejournal.com
Alternative lifestyle panels did not outnumber art, filk and costume combined. In fact, alt panels didn't outnumber any one of those categories on an individual basis either. I went through the pocket guide, and found 13 listings for filk (panels and participatory events), 9 for costuming (which includes the masquerade but NOT the prep stuff) and 13 for art (dominated by art show tours and/or AGoH sessions). I counted 9 alt/poly/adult listings total, comprised of four adult, three poly and two alt panels.

Many of the Fannish Lifestyle panels had nothing to do with alternative lifestyles of any kind. While Speed Dating or Flirting panels may not be your cup of tea, they aren't "alternative lifestyle" panels. Your perception simply does not match the reality.

Date: 2008-01-22 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pierceheart.livejournal.com
IAWTC, and wanted to go through the event listings and list them here, but decided that was too dickheaded.

Date: 2008-01-24 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] miekec
... not if someone is trying to use the numbers as a point. Then , I think, it's all the more important to check the figures.
Oh, and ashkes_muse - thanks for doing just that. I agree 200%.

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