Arisia 2008 Stair Club Reminder

[chainkill.livejournal.com]

disclaimer: I am not one of the organizers. Nothing in this post, nor in any of the threads contained herein is official, unless otherwise noted by someone who IS an oganizer. Everything I say here is merely a suggestion in order to reduce congestion in the elevators, and make the world a better place for people for whom the stairs are not a viable option.

Shortly after the end of the con last year, there was discussion of a "StairMaster Club" being organized by able-bodied individuals to allow those for whom the stairs are not an option to take the elevators with greater ease. StairMaster is a copyrighted word, so I will only be using the term "Stair Club".

The original announcement requested that people get in shape over the course of the year, so that for this upcoming Arisia, only those who are inconsiderate and those who are unable to take the stairs will be using the elevators. If you missed the previous announcement, there is still time! Get in shape now, so that everyone can enjoy the con as much as possible!



Once again, as we were reminded when this was originally posted, do NOT make discouraging remarks, comments, looks, or jokes to people who are taking the elevator, even if they appear to be able-bodied. First of all, the number of invisible things that can keep a person from taking a flight of stairs is astronomical, so do not assume. Secondly, the goal of this group is to make the con MORE fun for everyone, not less.

Comments

[sethb.livejournal.com]

The experience of a good college is that someone with all the advantages and (say) 1400 SATs tends to do less well than someone with no advantages and 1300 SATs. Basing admission decisions of prior experience is the correct way.

[chainkill.livejournal.com]

Oh, I totally agree. In the same way, someone who gets to the elevator first didn't necessarily leave where they were previously (in the direction of the elevator) first. The kid with the lower scores overcame more than the guy who doesn't need a cane to walk. Do you see the correlation between the two now?

[sethb.livejournal.com]

Nope. It's a convention. Why does it matter which of them was in the program room next to the elevators, and which of them wandered over from the far end of the floor?

And the college admission issue isn't what they overcame; it's how likely they are to succeed in college. I see no reason to believe that either of the people will do better or worse than the other in the Art Show (or wherever they're traveling to).

There are two people waiting for an elevator. It arrives with room to carry one of them. Which one? If the decision is based on something independent of the person (e.g. whoever arrived first), that's equal treatment. If it's based on the person (e.g. the shorter one goes first) that isn't equal treatment.

[chainkill.livejournal.com]

Alright, this is a point on which we disagree. You accept a different set of premises than I do. At this point, arguing would be pointless because I see where you're coming from. If you would like further clarification on where I am coming from, I would be happy to provide it, but I know that I will never convince you, and you will never convince me either.

Have a good one!