Wow!

Jan. 14th, 2007 08:33 pm
[identity profile] bobquasit.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] arisia
I'd heard that the hotel was small, but I had no idea just HOW small it was - I feel like William Shatner at the end of season 2 on original Trek. *

Just a suggestion: If there's enough Security available, it would be a great idea to station someone outside the elevator banks on every floor to avoid overloading. And whoever it was who had the idea to require everyone to exit at the top and bottom floors: thank you! "Up to go down" may have been acceptable at the Park Plaza, but it's definitely not an option at the Hyatt.

Looking forward to the next Arisia...and hoping that after that, we'll have a bigger hotel...

PS - One suggestion: since a lot of editions of Clear Ether disappeared kind of quickly, perhaps PDFs could be posted on the Arisia website?


* - Specifically, right after he took off his girdle.

Date: 2007-01-15 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agharta75.livejournal.com
If Arisia uses this hotel again (as an attendee that didn't stay at the con overnight, I'd give them about a C+) then the dealer's room and art show can't be on the top floors. That's just adding to the overloaded elevator traffic.

Also, if there's ever a fire in the hotel handicapped guests are going to die.

Date: 2007-01-15 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tehuti.livejournal.com
Imhotep?

Date: 2007-01-15 07:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quietann.livejournal.com
Part of the problem is that hotel was not designed for Arisia-sized events. Their function space is quite handy for weddings (up to about 300-400 guests) on the top floors or business meetings on the first floor. No one was thinking 2000 people when the hotel was designed. Gaylaxicon a few years ago was about 750 and that was at the outer limit of comfortable.

It's not ideal, but with less than a year to find a hotel it was the best of several alternatives.

Date: 2007-01-15 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_nicolai_/
You aren't supposed to use elevators during a fire and they usually return to the ground floor and stay there if there is a fire. That's true of all buildings, if the Park Plaza has a fire the evacuation will be by stairs also.
The fire department can operate the lifts to evacuate disabled people if they think it safe, or they can be carried down stairs if the lifts are inoperable. The stairwells of the Hyatt are behind fire doors from most of the building, so should remain usable even if there is a fire in the middle of a floor.

Date: 2007-01-15 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quietann.livejournal.com
There is alas no other place to put the dealers room or art show. None. Every available inch of function space was used.

Date: 2007-01-15 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agharta75.livejournal.com
Well, then this particular hotel doesn't meet convention requirements and shouldn't be used again. Something has to change for next year; last weekend's situation was not only grossly inconvenient but was actually unsafe. If someone had called the fire marshal Saturday morning, when the only visible access to the second floor was a one-person wide broken escalator, the convention would have been shut down. (And, yes, I asked around if there was another stairway. I eventually found the fire stairs, but no one on the first floor seemed to know where they were. )

Date: 2007-01-16 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redknight.livejournal.com
The stairs up from the first floor may not have been well marked, but the stairs DOWN from the upper floors (what the fire marshall really cares about) seemed to be well marked with illuminated exit signs.

Date: 2007-01-16 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quietann.livejournal.com
If you know of a hotel in the Boston area that is *available*, *reasonably priced* and better than this one, please do let the con-comm know!

Date: 2007-01-15 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tisiphone.livejournal.com
In the case of fire, handicapped guests are SOL anyway - in most elevator systems, when the fire alarm goes off, the elevators return to ground floor and refuse to move, because it's not safe to run elevators during a fire situation for any number of reasons.

Date: 2007-01-15 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tisiphone.livejournal.com
Well, "SOL" is a bit harsh since firefighters can re-enable the elevators to move people; but really, you're no worse off in the hotel in a fire situation than you would be on the 14th floor of any other building.

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